backing up windows XP tablet PC edition.

[scerab]

I bought a refurbished Fujitsu lifebook and it came with an original windows
XP tablet pc edition, but no CDs however. I have the key code. I want to
formant the machine. how can I do so if I have no windows CDs?
is there a way to back up my windows?
thanks in advance

[Jaime]

You will need the CD's to reinstall XP, so formatting it isn't the only
problem.

If you are installing a new OS, then you can use that CD to format the
drive.

Otherwise, write to Fujitsu and see if they will sell you install disks or
try to find a cheap set online (legality may be questionable).
--
James
Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida

Post by scerab
I bought a refurbished Fujitsu lifebook and it came with an original windows
XP tablet pc edition, but no CDs however. I have the key code. I want to
formant the machine. how can I do so if I have no windows CDs?
is there a way to back up my windows?
thanks in advance

[scerab]

so what your saying is there is no way i can back up the windows on my
lifebook?
can I like download windows XP tablet PC edition from Microsoft, I have my
key code.
I downloaded all the drivers from the manufactures website.

[Jaime]

Yes, you could make an image of your computer (to an external drive for
instance) or clone it to another drive for emergency disaster recovery. You
can use that later to put the system back on the computer, but that is not
the same as reinstalling Windows. You would just be making a exact copy of
the system as it is at the time of the imaging, so if you reformatted the
drive and then used that image to put the system back, it would be exactly
as it was before the reformat (more or less).

You need actual setup/install discs to reinstall the OS.

If you have a Technet or some other subscription with MS, you can download
the OS, otherwise no it can't be downloaded.

Have you checked with Fujitsu to see if the recovery discs are available.

Have you checked online? I did a quick search on ebay and saw someone was
selling Fujitsu recovery disks, not sure if it's the same lifebook.
--
James
Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida

Post by scerab
so what your saying is there is no way i can back up the windows on my
lifebook?
can I like download windows XP tablet PC edition from Microsoft, I have my
key code.
I downloaded all the drivers from the manufactures website.

[Rainald Taesler]

Post by Jaime

Post by scerab
so what your saying is there is no way i can back up the windows on
my lifebook?
can I like download windows XP tablet PC edition from Microsoft, I
have my key code.
I downloaded all the drivers from the manufactures website.

Yes, you could make an image of your computer (to an external drive
for instance) or clone it to another drive for emergency disaster
recovery. You can use that later to put the system back on the
computer, but that is not the same as reinstalling Windows. You would
just be making a exact copy of the system as it is at the time of the
imaging, so if you reformatted the drive and then used that image to
put the system back, it would be exactly as it was before the
reformat (more or less).

Yes.
But this obviously is not what the OP has in mind when he is talking of
"format the machine".

This would just be a snapshot of the situation given right in the
moment. And therefore the image would just contain all of the
irregularities which have grown over the years {siiigh}

Rainald

[Jaime]

Do you bother reading more that the first line of my post?

That is what I said.
--
James Wolf [MS-MVP]
Orlando, FL

Post by Rainald Taesler

Post by Jaime

Post by scerab
so what your saying is there is no way i can back up the windows on
my lifebook?
can I like download windows XP tablet PC edition from Microsoft, I
have my key code.
I downloaded all the drivers from the manufactures website.

Yes, you could make an image of your computer (to an external drive
for instance) or clone it to another drive for emergency disaster
recovery. You can use that later to put the system back on the
computer, but that is not the same as reinstalling Windows. You would
just be making a exact copy of the system as it is at the time of the
imaging, so if you reformatted the drive and then used that image to
put the system back, it would be exactly as it was before the
reformat (more or less).

Yes.
But this obviously is not what the OP has in mind when he is talking of
"format the machine".
This would just be a snapshot of the situation given right in the
moment. And therefore the image would just contain all of the
irregularities which have grown over the years {siiigh}
Rainald

[metronid]

Post by Jaime
Do you bother reading more that the first line of my post?
That is what I said.
--
James Wolf [MS-MVP]
Orlando, FL

Post by Rainald Taesler

Post by Jaime

Post by scerab
so what your saying is there is no way i can back up the windows on
my lifebook?
can I like download windows XP tablet PC edition from Microsoft, I
have mykeycode.
I downloaded all the drivers from the manufactures website.

Yes, you could make an image of your computer (to an external drive
for instance) or clone it to another drive for emergency disaster
recovery. You can use that later to put the system back on the
computer, but that is not the same as reinstalling Windows. You would
just be making a exact copy of the system as it is at the time of the
imaging, so if you reformatted the drive and then used that image to
put the system back, it would be exactly as it was before the
reformat (more or less).

Yes.
But this obviously is not what the OP has in mind when he is talking of
"format the machine".
This would just be a snapshot of the situation given right in the
moment. And therefore the image would just contain all of the
irregularities which have grown over the years {siiigh}
Rainald- Hide quoted text -

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I see a seller on ebay

seller name ----hoped4983

Has email address----***@hotmail.com

Member since: Dec-03-09 in United States

He has sold over 300 key codes at prices from 9.99 to about 24.99

How is this possible

Windows 7 Premium and Ultimate

Currently

http://cgi.ebay.com/Window-7-Ultimate-32bit-and-64bit-License-Key_W0QQitemZ190377795994QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2c5366a19a

http://cgi.ebay.com/Window-7-Home-Premium-32bit-and-64bit-License-Key_W0QQitemZ190377763601QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2c53662311


Past sales


http://completed.shop.ebay.com/hoped4983/m.html?LH_Complete=1&_fln=1&_ipg=&_trksid=p3911.c0.m283&_rdc=1



http://completed.shop.ebay.com/hoped4983/m.html?LH_Complete=1&_trkparms=65%253A13%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1&_ipg=&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_pgn=2

What is going on

[Steve Jain [MVP]]

Post by scerab
so what your saying is there is no way i can back up the windows on my
lifebook?
can I like download windows XP tablet PC edition from Microsoft, I have my
key code.
I downloaded all the drivers from the manufactures website.

Since you have an OEM installation of Windows, the manufacturer of the
tablet is responsible for support and CDs, not Microsoft.
Generally, the manufacturer includes some kind of utility that allows
you to make a recovery disk. If the system was reformatted and
installed with a plain installation, you might have lost this option.
Fujistu should be able to sell you replacement disks for installation
in this case.

[Rainald Taesler]

Post by Steve Jain [MVP]
Fujistu should be able to sell you replacement disks for installation
in this case.

Right, they *SHOULD*!
Most probably they won't be able to fulfill that, however.

I have been following the discussions in this NewsGroup for quite some
years.
The undoubted No. 1 issue has been the lack of OS-media (especially
since second-hand TabletPCs appeared on eBay).

In only too many cases the hardware manufacturers were unable
(unwilling??) to hand out the needed OS-CDs.

Whereas Gateway was the worst example (well noted for future buying
<!>), HP for a very long time was able and willing to provide the media
for a nominal fee (I can't say how the situation might be meanwhile).

I can not remember exactly for FJS, but I seem to remember that it's
been reported by desperate users that they declared being "sold out" a
longer while ago.

Anyway, it would be worth a try to approach FJS (escalating the case as
high as any possible).
For the OP this would be the first thing to try.

Rainald

[Rainald Taesler]

Post by scerab
so what your saying is there is no way i can back up the windows on my
lifebook?

RightyRight!
It's just the same as it has *always* been:
An installed OS can not be backuped as such.
One can backup data and one can create images.
But a "recovery" (playback) would just re-create the state given at the
time of the backup.
And AFAICS that would not be of any use for you (there seems to be
reasons why you want to "reformat").

Post by scerab
can I like download windows XP tablet PC edition from Microsoft, I
have my key code.

NO.
Operating Systems never ever have been available for "public" download
(different with "Partners" of MS like the subscribers of MSDN).

Post by scerab
I downloaded all the drivers from the manufactures website.

That's good. ;-)
But this won't give you the needed OS :-( :-(

The only things you can do:
(a) Contact FJS and ask them if they might still have the Recovery-CDs
for your device on stock;
(b) carefully watch on eBay for offers of "Win XP TabletPC edition" for
a longer period;

Should that fail, drop me a mail:
taesler [at] web [dot] de

I'll then take care of you.

Rainald

[Robert Aldwinckle]

Post by scerab
I bought a refurbished Fujitsu lifebook and it came with an original windows
XP tablet pc edition, but no CDs however. I have the key code. I want to
formant the machine. how can I do so if I have no windows CDs?
is there a way to back up my windows?
thanks in advance

Check to see if there is a Restore partition on your machine?
E.g. either Run... diskmgmt.msc or in an elevated cmd window enter:

fsutil fsinfo drives

FWIW in my HP tablet (W7) there is a .wim file in its Restore partition
and there is a magic keyboard shortcut available to use it.

That's with W7 but I imagine that XP probably has something similar or OEM's
have created something analogous...


http://www.fujitsu.com/sg/services/computing/pc/support/drivers/recovery_process.html

(BING search for
fujitsu recovery XP lifebook
)

So this would be equivalent to doing a reformat and recovering from the
stored image. If you have other files that you want to keep you would have
to preserve them somewhere else, since I suspect this procedure wouldn't
even respect any other partitioning you might have done...

http://forum.ts.fujitsu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=39640&p=127636

(BING search for
fujitsu recovery XP lifebook partition
)

QED. ; )


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---

[Rainald Taesler]

Post by Robert Aldwinckle

Post by scerab
I bought a refurbished Fujitsu lifebook and it came with an original windows
XP tablet pc edition, but no CDs however. I have the key code. I
want to formant the machine. how can I do so if I have no windows
CDs?
is there a way to back up my windows?
thanks in advance

Check to see if there is a Restore partition on your machine?
...

Yes, first thing to do!

It is a most popular construction nowadays not to hand out OS-media but
put things on the HDD and let the user create the media himself (IMHO a
serious regression and a bad outcome of "the do-it-yourself" ideology
{siiiigh}.

I seriously doubt, however, that this might have been the case already
when the TabletPC in question appeared on the market. TabletPCs were a
high-end product these days and clients who could afford to buy such
"luxury" device were treated as upper-class clients.
My HP/COMPAQ tc1100, f.e., came with a full set if almost a dozen CDs
;-)

Post by Robert Aldwinckle
FWIW in my HP tablet (W7) there is a .wim file in its Restore
partition and there is a magic keyboard shortcut available to use it.
That's with W7 but I imagine that XP probably has something similar
or OEM's have created something analogous...

NO, this is not a feature of the *OS*.
It's just the manufacturer's way of doing things!

And there's huge differences between the different product lines and
especially the *levels* of the products. He who buys a Mercedes -Benz, a
Jaguar or a Porsche has to be handled different and be given more
incentives than the one who buys a Mazda Pickup <bg>.

As you speak of HP:
Two weeks ago I got my dc7900 (high-end Business Desktop).
It was sold for Vista Business with XP downgrade, had XP SP3
pre-installed and came with "Recovery Plus!" DVD-sets for XP and Vista
plus DVDs/CDs for additional software (8 disks altogether) - not to
mention the option for a Win7 upgrade (I got Win7 Ultimate for the
nominal fee if some 30 € ;-) )
No need to create the OS-media from some "*.wim" on some (hidden)
"Recovery Partition").

An ashtray in a Rolls Royce per default has to be significantly
different from what the "plebs" will get ...

All in all:
I doubt that the FJS TabletPC in question would have come with a
do-it-yourself recovery-disk solution.

Rainald
P.S. The links you posted unfortunately do not lead to any solution
:-( :-(

[Robert Aldwinckle]

Post by Rainald Taesler
P.S. The links you posted unfortunately do not lead to any solution

They were both meant only to be justifications of the assertions I was
making--the context of which you snipped. ; }